[Itpolicy-np] Defination of these terms
pavan at wlink.com.np
pavan at wlink.com.np
Mon Jan 22 15:57:38 GMT 2007
Thank you Ananda Sir for explaining things explicitly. Let's start
working on the matrix.
Pavan
On 1/22/2007, "Ananda Raj Khanal" <arkhanal at nta.gov.np> wrote:
>I think there is a confusion on how the RTDF can be used. Please go
>through the Telecom Act Section 30 ( 4,5,6)
>It is solely within the NTA jurisdiction. I believe that two things are
>important from the regulatory perspective for rural ICT development:
>1. ISP license fees for rural ISP to be exempted ( NTA can recommend to
>the Govt.) can be for one 5 year term if required
>2. VSAT user license fees to be exempted for rural ICT users-NTA can
>recommend to the Govt
>3. VoIP to be open -NTA can do it
>4. 1% Tax or no tax for ICT equipments to be used for rural ICT-NTA can
>recommend to the Govt.
>5. 2% RTDF contribution and 4% Royalty to be exempted at least for 5
>years term
>
>Could we sit together to make a matrix in the following format:
>1. Issue/Problem
>2. Present regulatory status
>3. Solution ( What modification is required in the present regulatory
>environment ( amendment of the Telecom Act, Regulation, License,
>Directives and Guideliens of NTA, Tax regime etc. )
>4. Who has the legal authority to do that
>5. Who will follow the issue till it is resolved and inform the status
>to all by Creating a strong lobbying group
>6. Any other things
>
>
>
>
>Ananda Raj Khanal
>Manager
>Nepal Telecommunications Authority
>GPO Box 9754, Baluwatar
>Kathmandu, Nepal
>Tel:+977-1-4446008( Off direct)
>+977-1-4446001/2/3/4 ( Exchange) Ext 235
>Mobile:+97712300091
>Fax: +9777-1-4446006
>E-mail: arkhanal at nta.gov.np,arkhanal at hotmail.com
>Web: www.nta.gov.np
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: itpolicy-np-bounces at lahai.com
>[mailto:itpolicy-np-bounces at lahai.com] On Behalf Of pavan at wlink.com.np
>Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 7:28 AM
>To: itpolicy-np at lahai.com
>Cc: excom at ispan.net.np
>Subject: RE: [Itpolicy-np] Defination of these terms
>
>Well, Dhukuti ko chabi is definitely with NTA but the talchha ma lal
>mohar MOIC ko chha. So :
>
>I think, the process can be :
>
>1. Why don't NTA publicize a report prepared by the team of Gajendra
>Bohra Sir on the usage of RTDF. I wonder if its still under the process
>of discussion in NTA. Ananda Sir.....your input please.
>
>I request Gajendra Bohra Sir to shed some light on the report, if
>appropriate OR if can be done publicly.
>
>2. After incorporating comments of all stakeholders, NTA Board approve
>that report and send to MOIC with recommendation.
>
>3. MOIC can take it forward to the Cabinet, if necessary.
>
>4. In the meantime, after process 2......we all to talk to Bikas Samiti
>for their help.
>
>But as Rajendraji has very well said -- "paisa bhane pachhi mahadev ko
>tin netra and laj navayeko sarkar ra mantri milera commission ko chakkar
>chalauchan ani hami tehi avimanyuuo chakrama phasdachu"
>
>we need to be very careful.
>
>For that we can pressurize government to form a committee with members
>from government (MOIC, Artha and HLCIT), NTA, service providers and
>community based organisations who recommends government to use RTDF
>after getting the proposal.
>
>have happy bandh day again......it seems we really need Pashupati Nath
>ko
>kalyan now.
>
>Pavan
>
>On 1/22/2007, "enrd at wlink.com.np" <enrd at wlink.com.np> wrote:
>
>>Dear all,
>>
>>We can certainly use that RTDF fund. But we need to find
>>
>>Dhukuti ko chapi hajurbabale kaslai (who is the authentic personal)
>>diyeka chan?
>>
>>
>>We need to go through the existing policies and regulations that Nepal
>>government had defined. For this first we need to prepare a concept
>note
>>on
>>1) How this fund has been collected and initially why this concept was
>>adopted, (This should be done by person which is related with MOIC or
>>NTA- might be by Ananda Khanal sir is suitable person)
>>2) What actually problem has created by this fund in the related
>sector.
>>(here we must use our intelligence to find good acceptable logic- might
>>be prepare by public or private sector related personal)
>>3) How this problem can be overcome? and what will be it's result? and
>>till when. (Exact time and defind result with indicator should be
>>identified).
>>4) Identify Who (specific positioned personal) is the key person in
>>Government can decide to release this fund. If it should be release
>from
>>Ministers cabinate through whome we need to start process. (Here we
>need
>>to show what is the leagl way to release this fund and in which
>>regulation/ act it is addressed it).
>>
>>After it we need to find out how to lobby by whome. we should not make
>it
>>publicity- Because "Dhan Dekhe pachi Mahadevka tin netra khulchan".
>>
>>Laj navayeko sarkar ra mantri milera commission ko chakkar chalauchan
>ani
>>hami tehi avimanyuuo chakrama phasdachu.
>>
>>Regards
>>Rajendra
>>
>>
>>
>>On 1/21/2007, "pavan at wlink.com.np" <pavan at wlink.com.np> wrote:
>>
>>>We have to agree that Telecomm Policy 2060 is one of the best policies
>>>our government has ever made but with the absence of relevant acts,
>>>everything is crippled.
>>>
>>>I wonder if NTA can propose few amendment to the Cabinet, through
>MOIC,
>>>and have it enacted through gazette ?
>>>
>>>If this can be done, we do not have to wait any longer....forgive me
>if i
>>>have overlooked the bureaucratic process :)
>>>
>>>Pavan
>>>
>>>On 1/21/2007, "Ananda Raj Khanal" <arkhanal at nta.gov.np> wrote:
>>>
>>>>The proposed amendment in the telecom act 1997 has this category of
>>>>infrastructure service provider
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ananda Raj Khanal
>>>>Manager
>>>>Nepal Telecommunications Authority
>>>>GPO Box 9754, Baluwatar
>>>>Kathmandu, Nepal
>>>>Tel:+977-1-4446008( Off direct)
>>>>+977-1-4446001/2/3/4 ( Exchange) Ext 235
>>>>Mobile:+97712300091
>>>>Fax: +9777-1-4446006
>>>>E-mail: arkhanal at nta.gov.np,arkhanal at hotmail.com
>>>>Web: www.nta.gov.np
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: itpolicy-np-bounces at lahai.com
>>>>[mailto:itpolicy-np-bounces at lahai.com] On Behalf Of Kishor Panth
>>>>Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 10:55 AM
>>>>To: itpolicy-np at lahai.com
>>>>Cc: excom at ispan.net.np
>>>>Subject: Re: [Itpolicy-np] Defination of these terms
>>>>
>>>>I think this should be fine
>>>>
>>>>any commets from others
>>>>
>>>>Kishor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Friday 19 January 2007 16:46, Pavan S Shakya wrote:
>>>>> I blindly support Kishor's version of Infrastructure Service
>Provider
>>>>which
>>>>> makes more sense rather than Data Network Service Provider. I also
>>>>suggest
>>>>> that VSAT Network Service Provider be changed to Infrastructure
>>>>Service
>>>>> Provider.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the changed context and as per the marma of Telecomm Policy
>2060,
>>>>we are
>>>>> heading towards liberalization. Government and NTA must think of
>>>>> simplifying the licensing processes, being facilitator and
>regulator
>>>>> respectively.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pavan
>>>>>
>>>>> At 02:12 PM 1/19/2007, Kishor Panth wrote:
>>>>> >On this topics I think Instead of having a data network service
>>>>provider
>>>>> >we should term this as a Infrastructure Provider.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >The Infrastructure provider can rent lease towers fiber or
>connection
>>>>by
>>>>> >any mean to the needy, which can be a ISP, NSP ,Tecom or any
>service
>>>>> > provider.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >And the important thing that should be noted by NTA is that it
>should
>>>>make
>>>>> >its boundary, all Nepal and charge minimal fee as a license fee.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Point to be noted is that if any organization or a person wants to
>>>>make
>>>>> >his own infrastructure for its own use then there should be no
>>>>restriction
>>>>> >on that also.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >What do yo all think folks
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Kishor
>>>>> >
>>>>> >On Friday 19 January 2007 12:54, Kishor Panth wrote:
>>>>> > > Hello folks
>>>>> > > The initiatives from NTA has to be
>>>>appreciate and
>>>>> > > we really look forward in the future for a betterment as we
>have
>>>>people
>>>>> > > like Anand ji out there.
>>>>> > > And one more thing I would like to remind you all that please
>keep
>>>>the
>>>>> > > mailing list going on
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Kishor
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > On Friday 19 January 2007 10:22, Ananda Raj Khanal wrote:
>>>>> > > > We are very open to discuss and settle any issues and
>>>>discrepancies
>>>>> > > > for the larger overall benefit. We are trying to increase the
>>>>> > > > administrative efficiency and effectiveness and we require
>your
>>>>> > > > constructive inputs for this.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > Ananda Raj Khanal
>>>>> > > > Manager
>>>>> > > > Nepal Telecommunications Authority
>>>>> > > > GPO Box 9754, Baluwatar
>>>>> > > > Kathmandu, Nepal
>>>>> > > > Tel:+977-1-4446008( Off direct)
>>>>> > > > +977-1-4446001/2/3/4 ( Exchange) Ext 235
>>>>> > > > Mobile:+97712300091
>>>>> > > > Fax: +9777-1-4446006
>>>>> > > > E-mail: arkhanal at nta.gov.np,arkhanal at hotmail.com
>>>>> > > > Web: www.nta.gov.np
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>>>>> > > > From: itpolicy-np-bounces at lahai.com
>>>>> > > > [mailto:itpolicy-np-bounces at lahai.com] On Behalf Of Pavan S
>>>>Shakya
>>>>> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 2:41 PM
>>>>> > > > To: itpolicy-np at lahai.com
>>>>> > > > Cc: excom at ispan.net.np
>>>>> > > > Subject: RE: [Itpolicy-np] Defination of these terms
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > I also support Ananda Sir's version -- we require to
>>>>differentiate
>>>>> > > > their
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > domains in legal terms but NTA must study its pros and cons
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > KEEPING IN MIND THAT :
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > We are operating in the 21st century and we are there to
>provide
>>>>the
>>>>> > > > available technology to the end users.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > Facilitators and regulators must work harder and sensibly to
>>>>provide
>>>>> > > > any
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > service, which directly contribute to the overall development
>of
>>>>the
>>>>> > > > country and benefit the end user.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > Pavan
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > At 10:38 AM 1/18/2007, Ananda Raj Khanal wrote:
>>>>> > > > >Ya it looks silly but there is a reason to differentiate
>>>>between
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > Internet
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > >and data service at least from the traditional view point. A
>>>>bit is
>>>>> > > > > a
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > bit.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > >But a bit generated from a computer/any electronic device,
>>>>voice,
>>>>> > > > > video
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > >have different requirements in terms of quality (bandwidth,
>>>>latency
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > etc.)
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > >A digitized voice traveling through a circuit switched
>network
>>>>is
>>>>> > > > > also same as data.
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > >If not technically required, we require to differentiate
>their
>>>>> > > > > domains
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > in
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > >legal terms.
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > >Ananda Raj Khanal
>>>>> > > > >Manager
>>>>> > > > >Nepal Telecommunications Authority
>>>>> > > > >GPO Box 9754, Baluwatar
>>>>> > > > >Kathmandu, Nepal
>>>>> > > > >Tel:+977-1-4446008( Off direct)
>>>>> > > > >+977-1-4446001/2/3/4 ( Exchange) Ext 235
>>>>> > > > >Mobile:+97712300091
>>>>> > > > >Fax: +9777-1-4446006
>>>>> > > > >E-mail: arkhanal at nta.gov.np, arkhanal at hotmail.com
>>>>> > > > >Web: www.nta.gov.np
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > >-----Original Message-----
>>>>> > > > >From: itpolicy-np-bounces at lahai.com
>>>>> > > > >[mailto:itpolicy-np-bounces at lahai.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>> > > > > pavan at wlink.com.np Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 5:40
>PM
>>>>> > > > >To: itpolicy-np at lahai.com
>>>>> > > > >Cc: excom at ispan.net.np
>>>>> > > > >Subject: Re: [Itpolicy-np] Defination of these terms
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > >Thank you Kishorji.
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > >Before stepping into clarifying those definition, can we be
>>>>clear on
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > the
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > >definition and difference between Data and Internet ?
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > >This might look silly to ask (atleast by me :)) but the
>>>>> > > > > clarification plays a vital role while redefining all those
>>>>terms
>>>>> > > > > that you have
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > specified.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > >Pavan
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > >On 1/17/2007, "Kishor Panth" <kishor at lahai.com> wrote:
>>>>> > > > > >Hello all
>>>>> > > > > > We have been quite for a long time and I
>>>>think we
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > >should start
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > > >some of the discussion.
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > >I would like ask all of you for the definition of the
>>>>following
>>>>> > > > > > terms
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > >1.> ISP
>>>>> > > > > >2.> NSP
>>>>> > > > > >3.> Data Network Service Providers
>>>>> > > > > >4.> VSAT Service Provider
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > >Thankx
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > >--
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>>>>> > > > Hami Nepali, Hamro Nepal, Jai hos Nepal !
>>>>> > > > (we are Nepalese, its our Nepal, Hail to Nepal)
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > Pavan S Shakya
>>>>> > > > Director, Public Relations, WorldLink
>>>>> > > > President, ISP Association of Nepal
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > Email : pavan at wlink.com.np
>>>>> > > > Phone : +977 1 5523050 Ext. 229
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>>>>> ---------
>>>>> Hami Nepali, Hamro Nepal, Jai hos Nepal !
>>>>> (we are Nepalese, its our Nepal, Hail to Nepal)
>>>>>
>>>>> Pavan S Shakya
>>>>> Director, Public Relations, WorldLink
>>>>> President, ISP Association of Nepal
>>>>>
>>>>> Email : pavan at wlink.com.np
>>>>> Phone : +977 1 5523050 Ext. 229
>>>>> Fax : +977 1 5529403
>>>>> H/P : +977 98510 27928
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