[Itpolicy-np] Defination of these terms

Mon Jan 22 07:35:13 GMT 2007

I think there is a confusion on how the RTDF can be used. Please go
through the Telecom Act Section 30 ( 4,5,6)
It is solely within the NTA jurisdiction. I believe that two things are
important from the regulatory perspective for rural ICT development:
1. ISP license fees for rural ISP to be exempted ( NTA can recommend to
the Govt.) can be for one 5 year term if required
2.  VSAT user license fees to be exempted for rural ICT users-NTA can
recommend to the Govt 
3. VoIP to be open -NTA can do it
4. 1% Tax or no tax for ICT equipments to be used for rural ICT-NTA can
recommend to the Govt.
5. 2% RTDF contribution and 4% Royalty to be exempted at least for 5
years term

Could we sit together to make a matrix in the following format:
1. Issue/Problem
2. Present regulatory status
3. Solution ( What modification is required in the present regulatory
environment ( amendment of the Telecom Act, Regulation, License,
Directives and Guideliens of NTA, Tax regime etc. )
4. Who has the legal authority to do that
5. Who will follow the issue till it is resolved and inform the status
to all by Creating a strong lobbying group 
6. Any other things 

Ananda Raj Khanal
Manager
Nepal Telecommunications Authority
GPO Box 9754, Baluwatar
Kathmandu, Nepal
Tel:+977-1-4446008( Off direct)
+977-1-4446001/2/3/4 ( Exchange) Ext 235
Mobile:+97712300091
Fax: +9777-1-4446006
E-mail: arkhanal at nta.gov.np,arkhanal at hotmail.com
Web: www.nta.gov.np

-----Original Message-----
From: itpolicy-np-bounces at lahai.com
[mailto:itpolicy-np-bounces at lahai.com] On Behalf Of pavan at wlink.com.np
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 7:28 AM
To: itpolicy-np at lahai.com
Cc: excom at ispan.net.np
Subject: RE: [Itpolicy-np] Defination of these terms

Well, Dhukuti ko chabi is definitely with NTA but the talchha ma lal
mohar MOIC ko chha. So :

I think, the process can be :

1. Why don't NTA publicize a report prepared by the team of Gajendra
Bohra Sir on the usage of RTDF. I wonder if its still under the process
of discussion in NTA. Ananda Sir.....your input please.

I request Gajendra Bohra Sir to shed some light on the report, if
appropriate OR if can be done publicly.

2. After incorporating comments of all stakeholders, NTA Board approve
that report and send to MOIC with recommendation.

3. MOIC can take it forward to the Cabinet, if necessary.

4. In the meantime, after process 2......we all to talk to Bikas Samiti
for their help.

But as Rajendraji has very well said -- "paisa bhane pachhi mahadev ko
tin netra and laj navayeko sarkar ra mantri milera commission ko chakkar
chalauchan ani hami tehi avimanyuuo chakrama phasdachu"

we need to be very careful.

For that we can pressurize government to form a committee with members
from government (MOIC, Artha and HLCIT), NTA, service providers and
community based organisations who recommends government to use RTDF
after getting the proposal.

have happy bandh day again......it seems we really need Pashupati Nath
ko
kalyan now.

Pavan

On 1/22/2007, "enrd at wlink.com.np" <enrd at wlink.com.np> wrote:

>Dear all,
>
>We can certainly use that RTDF fund. But we need to find
>
>Dhukuti ko chapi hajurbabale kaslai (who is the authentic personal)
>diyeka chan?
>
>
>We  need to go through the existing policies and regulations that Nepal
>government had defined. For this first we need to prepare a concept
note
>on
>1) How this fund has been collected and initially why this concept was
>adopted, (This should be done by person which is related with MOIC or
>NTA- might be by Ananda Khanal sir is suitable person)
>2) What actually problem has created by this fund in the related
sector.
>(here we must use our intelligence to find good acceptable logic- might
>be prepare by public or private sector related personal)
>3) How this problem can be overcome? and what will be it's result? and
>till when. (Exact time and defind result with indicator should be
>identified).
>4) Identify Who (specific positioned personal) is the key person in
>Government can decide to release this fund. If it should be release
from
>Ministers cabinate through whome we need to start process. (Here we
need
>to show what is the leagl way to release this fund and in which
>regulation/ act it is addressed it).
>
>After it we need to find out how to lobby by whome. we should not make
it
>publicity- Because "Dhan Dekhe pachi Mahadevka tin netra khulchan".
>
>Laj navayeko sarkar ra mantri milera commission ko chakkar chalauchan
ani
>hami tehi avimanyuuo chakrama phasdachu.
>
>Regards
>Rajendra
>
>
>
>On 1/21/2007, "pavan at wlink.com.np" <pavan at wlink.com.np> wrote:
>
>>We have to agree that Telecomm Policy 2060 is one of the best policies
>>our government has ever made but with the absence of relevant acts,
>>everything is crippled.
>>
>>I wonder if NTA can propose few amendment to the Cabinet, through
MOIC,
>>and have it enacted through gazette ?
>>
>>If this can be done, we do not have to wait any longer....forgive me
if i
>>have overlooked the bureaucratic process :)
>>
>>Pavan
>>
>>On 1/21/2007, "Ananda Raj Khanal" <arkhanal at nta.gov.np> wrote:
>>
>>>The proposed amendment in the telecom act 1997 has this category of
>>>infrastructure service provider
>>>
>>>
>>>Ananda Raj Khanal
>>>Manager
>>>Nepal Telecommunications Authority
>>>GPO Box 9754, Baluwatar
>>>Kathmandu, Nepal
>>>Tel:+977-1-4446008( Off direct)
>>>+977-1-4446001/2/3/4 ( Exchange) Ext 235
>>>Mobile:+97712300091
>>>Fax: +9777-1-4446006
>>>E-mail: arkhanal at nta.gov.np,arkhanal at hotmail.com
>>>Web: www.nta.gov.np
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: itpolicy-np-bounces at lahai.com
>>>[mailto:itpolicy-np-bounces at lahai.com] On Behalf Of Kishor Panth
>>>Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 10:55 AM
>>>To: itpolicy-np at lahai.com
>>>Cc: excom at ispan.net.np
>>>Subject: Re: [Itpolicy-np] Defination of these terms
>>>
>>>I think this should be fine
>>>
>>>any commets from others
>>>
>>>Kishor
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Friday 19 January 2007 16:46, Pavan S Shakya wrote:
>>>> I blindly support Kishor's version of Infrastructure Service
Provider
>>>which
>>>> makes more sense rather than Data Network Service Provider. I also
>>>suggest
>>>> that VSAT Network Service Provider be  changed to Infrastructure
>>>Service
>>>> Provider.
>>>>
>>>> In the changed context and as per the marma of Telecomm Policy
2060,
>>>we are
>>>> heading towards liberalization. Government and NTA must think of
>>>> simplifying the licensing processes, being facilitator and
regulator
>>>> respectively.
>>>>
>>>> Pavan
>>>>
>>>> At 02:12 PM 1/19/2007, Kishor Panth wrote:
>>>> >On this topics I think Instead of having a data network service
>>>provider
>>>> >we should term this as a Infrastructure Provider.
>>>> >
>>>> >The Infrastructure provider can rent lease towers fiber or
connection
>>>by
>>>> >any mean to the needy, which can be a ISP, NSP ,Tecom or any
service
>>>> > provider.
>>>> >
>>>> >And the important thing that should be noted by NTA is that it
should
>>>make
>>>> >its boundary, all Nepal and charge minimal fee as a license fee.
>>>> >
>>>> >Point to be noted is that if any organization or a person wants to
>>>make
>>>> >his own infrastructure for its own use then there should be no
>>>restriction
>>>> >on that also.
>>>> >
>>>> >What do yo all think folks
>>>> >
>>>> >Kishor
>>>> >
>>>> >On Friday 19 January 2007 12:54, Kishor Panth wrote:
>>>> > > Hello folks
>>>> > >                       The initiatives from NTA has to be
>>>appreciate and
>>>> > > we really look forward in the future for a betterment as we
have
>>>people
>>>> > > like Anand ji out there.
>>>> > > And one more thing I would like to remind you all that please
keep
>>>the
>>>> > > mailing list going on
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Kishor
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Friday 19 January 2007 10:22, Ananda Raj Khanal wrote:
>>>> > > > We are very open to discuss and settle any issues and
>>>discrepancies
>>>> > > > for the larger overall benefit. We are trying to increase the
>>>> > > > administrative efficiency and effectiveness and we require
your
>>>> > > > constructive inputs for this.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Ananda Raj Khanal
>>>> > > > Manager
>>>> > > > Nepal Telecommunications Authority
>>>> > > > GPO Box 9754, Baluwatar
>>>> > > > Kathmandu, Nepal
>>>> > > > Tel:+977-1-4446008( Off direct)
>>>> > > > +977-1-4446001/2/3/4 ( Exchange) Ext 235
>>>> > > > Mobile:+97712300091
>>>> > > > Fax: +9777-1-4446006
>>>> > > > E-mail: arkhanal at nta.gov.np,arkhanal at hotmail.com
>>>> > > > Web: www.nta.gov.np
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > > > From: itpolicy-np-bounces at lahai.com
>>>> > > > [mailto:itpolicy-np-bounces at lahai.com] On Behalf Of Pavan S
>>>Shakya
>>>> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 2:41 PM
>>>> > > > To: itpolicy-np at lahai.com
>>>> > > > Cc: excom at ispan.net.np
>>>> > > > Subject: RE: [Itpolicy-np] Defination of these terms
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > I also support Ananda Sir's version -- we require to
>>>differentiate
>>>> > > > their
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > domains in legal terms but NTA must study its pros and cons
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > KEEPING IN MIND THAT :
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > We are operating in the 21st century and we are there to
provide
>>>the
>>>> > > > available technology to the end users.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Facilitators and regulators must work harder and sensibly to
>>>provide
>>>> > > > any
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > service, which directly contribute to the overall development
of
>>>the
>>>> > > > country and benefit the end user.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Pavan
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > At 10:38 AM 1/18/2007, Ananda Raj Khanal wrote:
>>>> > > > >Ya it looks silly but there is a reason to differentiate
>>>between
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Internet
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > >and data service at least from the traditional view point. A
>>>bit is
>>>> > > > > a
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > bit.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > >But a bit generated from a computer/any electronic device,
>>>voice,
>>>> > > > > video
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >have different requirements in terms of quality (bandwidth,
>>>latency
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > etc.)
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > >A digitized voice traveling through a circuit switched
network
>>>is
>>>> > > > > also same as data.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >If not technically required, we require to differentiate
their
>>>> > > > > domains
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > in
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > >legal terms.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >Ananda Raj Khanal
>>>> > > > >Manager
>>>> > > > >Nepal Telecommunications Authority
>>>> > > > >GPO Box 9754, Baluwatar
>>>> > > > >Kathmandu, Nepal
>>>> > > > >Tel:+977-1-4446008( Off direct)
>>>> > > > >+977-1-4446001/2/3/4 ( Exchange) Ext 235
>>>> > > > >Mobile:+97712300091
>>>> > > > >Fax: +9777-1-4446006
>>>> > > > >E-mail: arkhanal at nta.gov.np, arkhanal at hotmail.com
>>>> > > > >Web: www.nta.gov.np
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >-----Original Message-----
>>>> > > > >From: itpolicy-np-bounces at lahai.com
>>>> > > > >[mailto:itpolicy-np-bounces at lahai.com] On Behalf Of
>>>> > > > > pavan at wlink.com.np Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 5:40
PM
>>>> > > > >To: itpolicy-np at lahai.com
>>>> > > > >Cc: excom at ispan.net.np
>>>> > > > >Subject: Re: [Itpolicy-np] Defination of these terms
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >Thank you Kishorji.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >Before stepping into clarifying those definition, can we be
>>>clear on
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > the
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > >definition and difference between Data and Internet ?
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >This might look silly to ask (atleast by me :)) but the
>>>> > > > > clarification plays a vital role while redefining all those
>>>terms
>>>> > > > > that you have
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > specified.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > >Pavan
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >On 1/17/2007, "Kishor Panth" <kishor at lahai.com> wrote:
>>>> > > > > >Hello all
>>>> > > > > >                We have been quite for a long time and I
>>>think we
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >should start
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > >some of the discussion.
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > >I would like ask all of you for the definition of the
>>>following
>>>> > > > > > terms
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > >1.> ISP
>>>> > > > > >2.> NSP
>>>> > > > > >3.> Data Network  Service Providers
>>>> > > > > >4.> VSAT Service Provider
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > >Thankx
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > >--
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>>>> > > > (we are Nepalese, its our Nepal, Hail to Nepal)
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Pavan S Shakya
>>>> > > > Director, Public Relations, WorldLink
>>>> > > > President, ISP Association of Nepal
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Email : pavan at wlink.com.np
>>>> > > > Phone : +977 1 5523050 Ext. 229
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>>>> ---------
>>>> Hami Nepali, Hamro Nepal, Jai hos Nepal !
>>>> (we are Nepalese, its our Nepal, Hail to Nepal)
>>>>
>>>> Pavan S Shakya
>>>> Director, Public Relations, WorldLink
>>>> President, ISP Association of Nepal
>>>>
>>>> Email : pavan at wlink.com.np
>>>> Phone : +977 1 5523050 Ext. 229
>>>> Fax : +977 1 5529403
>>>> H/P : +977 98510 27928
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