[Itpolicy-np] Internet Outage and ISPs support

Wed Mar 21 05:58:55 GMT 2007

Hello Pavan ji 
                           I really appreciate the effort that ISPAN has taken 
to support the ongoing protest program but this is like rubbing your head 
when you have a pain on your feet. 

Remember one thing while protesting is the protest should attract the 
attraction of the body that you are trying to catch the attention of  and 
then only it is suppose to be effective. But in the case of ISPAN , by 
shutting down the internet service you have made the internet users to think 
of some other alternatives then the ISPs here. As I think the service from NT 
was not shut down. So I as a internet user will think  to have a alternative 
to go to NT then any of the service provider. 

 Plus I might not be aware of the issues that has been raised by ISPAN, so it 
would be great if you could list down the issues raised by ISPAN in the past 
for the betterment of the ISPs in Nepal. 

I feel that ISPAN is also become just like a another political party which 
organizes the bands and the sufferers are the general people and in the same 
case with this act of ISPAN the sufferers are the people like us who have 
been using the internet and deeply depend on it. 

CAn you tell me if Mr Girija Prasad Koirala or Prachanda or Sitaula or any of 
the person from the government  even got effected by this act of ISPAN. no 
way. 

As all of us are aware that what the international community expressed when in 
the past we said like " In Our Country the internet connectivity is switched 
off" . 

So now with this act I am sure that ISPAN is sending a message to the Internet 
users " HEY ALL PLEASE BE PREPARED AS IN THE FUTURE THERE WILL BE NO INTERNET 
CONNECTION "  coz all the ISPs are going on strike. 

So now lets make a habit of not depending on the Internet, email and get back 
to Phone and FAX and Mobile. 

Kishor 

On Wednesday 21 March 2007 07:39, Pavan S Shakya wrote:
> DOES THE FLOOR THINK WE DID IT POLITICALLY ?
>
> I am surprised that our move is compared to Gyanendra's move.
>
> It is unfortunate that we must shut down our services to protest for basic
> human rights, as this is the only language that our government understands.
> We have avoided pressure from various groups in the past to shut down our
> services in protest. However, this time, the entire business community in
> Nepal is going on strike and they want us to shut down indefinitely. We
> were able to convince them of the basic necessity of telecommunications and
> get away with only couple of hours outage. We must show solidarity with the
> private sector's genuine demands.
>
> With reference to the article from Vinaya Sir and with due respect, we have
> been saying that a pen is mightier than a sword. But, does the floor can
> guarantee that this proverb is applicable to our government and that too
> with twists and turns in political system and bureaucracy ? The only thing
> we can do WITH PEN is wait and watch. If the pen had been mightier in this
> country (Kantipur case is different and we all know), we would have been
> enjoying the full democratic system and mechanism, where a kamaiya from far
> western region would visit PM office without any hesitation.
>
> In our case, for instance, we had always raised the issue of ISM band but
> had not it been a political pressure, we would not have enjoyed the free
> band today. Thanks to Mahabir Dai and Rajendra Poudelji and the entire
> team, who managed to get it through politically.
>
> I hope you all agree that ISPs are the only service industry who have been
> very quiet and tolerating every commercial and bureaucratic pressures for
> social cause. We have been mute and always acted gentlemanly whenever we
> had problems and always sought amicable solutions through talks and paper
> works.
>
> But for how long ?
>
> An influential political leader was telling me bluntly that if we had taken
> the street during Jan Andolan II, our thup dastur issue and other problems
> would have been resolved within a minute. We all supported the movement in
> our capacity. The only thing we did not do was shutting down our services
> in protest and we did not go out on the street WITH BANNER. He was again
> blunt to say that they had waived off FM royalty simply because they helped
> in pro-democratic movement. If this is the attitude of the leader who is
> designing our bhabisya, we have to act as per his specification of
> contributing to the democracy.
>
> Now, going back to the issue :
>
> Let's not think individually. If barbaric situation is happening in the
> heart of capital city, how can we imagine peaceful Nepal. I am surprised to
> know that in six months, almost 50 people were kidnapped and such facts are
> surfacing NOW because people were not getting protection and they have been
> getting threatens. Now, these people feel secure when we joined hands and
> issues are coming up.
>
> I do not think I should repeat the word "chanda atanka" here as you all are
> very well aware of it. If such trend continues, the only thing that surely
> will happen is that we shutdown our business and handover all clients to
> the "semi-government owned" companies and wait for its share to be floated
> to the public :(
>
> We are very well aware of the ramification we will have in days to come but
> I am glad to share the news that most of our valued customers have
> supported our move. Well, handful thinks that if they have paid for 24 x 7
> x 365 days service, they should get it and I do not have answer for that
> except to convince them on our movement.
>
> Please comment !
>
> Pavan
>
> At 09:38 PM 3/20/2007, Gaurab Raj Upadhaya wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, Prashant Manandhar wrote:
> >>Dear all,
> >>
> >>This is the recall situations as feb 2006, i'm totally agreed with Kishor
> >>ji's Voice. As you all remembered that the Feb 2006 impacted on Internet
> >>business of our Local ISP, one of the example is all UN agencies
> >>installed their own VSAT network and all network directly connecting
> >>through International Provider, not going through local ISP's network.
> >
> >Also, as somone was saying on a different mailing list. Next time he will
> >go to buy from Nepal telecom.
> >
> >While i don't know how many common people will change providers over this,
> >all government agencies not already with NT will move to them.
> >
> >Would be interested to know what's NTA's take on this.
> >
> >thanks
> >
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