[Itpolicy-np] The Information Highway that I am proposing
mahabir at himanchal.org
mahabir at himanchal.org
Thu Feb 15 13:08:15 GMT 2007
Hello All;
I am helping my mother in the hospital in Kathmandu. Therefore I have not
taken part in the discussion. I will continue when I will get time.
Can we meet and have a discussion face to face rather than discussing
through e-mail? Please let me know if you are interested to join.
Mahabir
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> Ananda
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: itpolicy-np-bounces at lahai.com [mailto:itpolicy-np-bounces at lahai.com]
> On Behalf Of Kishor Panth
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 2:57 PM
> To: itpolicy-np at lahai.com
> Subject: Re: [Itpolicy-np] The Information Highway that I am proposing
>
> So time to ROCK
>
> Kishor
>
>
>
> On Tuesday 13 February 2007 13:44, Pavan S Shakya wrote:
>> As Ananda Sir has asked us to come up with concrete plan of action. ITS
>> TIME TO ACT !!
>>
>> Pavan
>>
>> At 01:26 PM 2/12/2007, Ananda Raj Khanal wrote:
>> >Dear All,
>> >
>> >For Scaling up ICT access in the rural areas of Nepal, the current
>> model
>> >developed and implemented by Mr Mahabir Pun is worthy of praise. But
>> some
>> >of the following issues are important to be addressed:
>> >1. Ownership of the network/services
>> >2. Operation and maintenance of the network/services
>> >3. Sustainability of the project in the long run
>> >
>> >I am planning to sign MoUs with different potential organizations who
>> can
>> >construct the network and address the issues I have raised. NTA from
>> its
>> >WB funding source would like to finance the equipment cost (purchased
>> >through a national competitive bidding-)
>> >
>> >These projects can be multiple and my idea is to have at least one
>> pilot
>> >project per development region.
>> >
>> >Our discussions are limited to just sharing ideas but we have not been
>> >able to translate our beautiful ideas into workable projects. Time is
> just
>> >running and I am desperate to do something. Please come up with
>> concrete
>> >plan of action.
>> >
>> >Thanking you for your inputs,
>> >
>> >Ananda Raj Khanal
>> >
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: itpolicy-np-bounces at lahai.com
> [mailto:itpolicy-np-bounces at lahai.com]
>> >On Behalf Of Pavan S Shakya
>> >Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 11:45 AM
>> >To: itpolicy-np at lahai.com
>> >Subject: RE: [Itpolicy-np] The Information Highway that I am proposing
>> >
>> >Thank you Ananda Sir.
>> >
>> >Though I have not gone in detail, this document helps us to prepare
>> >strategy to build New Nepal. Though it looks like Yearly Plan of the
>> >government, the best part of it is that it is time bound.
>> >
>> >Not that -- hamile 2007 ko anta sammama yo kura garne lakshya liyeka
>> > chhaun
>> >
>> >Pavan
>> >
>> >At 10:02 AM 2/12/2007, Ananda Raj Khanal wrote:
>> > >Dear All,
>> > >Please ponder over the contents of the following link in connection
> with
>> > >Mahbir dai's vision.
>> > >http://www.dot.gov.in/tender/usotender18jan07/usotender18Jan07.html
>> > >http://www.bharatnirman.gov.in/download.pdf
>> > >
>> > >Hope this is useful for all of us in solidifying our vision of future
>> > > New Nepal.
>> > >
>> > >Ananda
>> > >
>> > >-----Original Message-----
>> > >From: itpolicy-np-bounces at lahai.com
>> > > [mailto:itpolicy-np-bounces at lahai.com] On Behalf Of
>> > > mahabir at himanchal.org
>> > >Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 6:50 PM
>> > >To: Discussion List for Nepal's IT/Telecom Policies
>> > >Subject: Re: [Itpolicy-np] The Information Highway that I am
>> proposing
>> > >
>> > >Hello All;
>> > >
>> > >Please correct me if I am wrong on what I am saying.
>> > >
>> > >The concept of Information Highway is exactly same as building the
>> > >black-topped motorable highway. Let me explain it in simple way.
>> > >
>> > >Mahendra Highway starts from the eastern corner and reaches to the
>> > > western end of Nepal. Then there are other highways such as
>> Tribhuvan
>> > > Highway, Prithvi Highway, Arniko Highway, Siddhartha Highway etc,
>> etc.
>> > > You can say them sub-highways. These highways were built by the
>> > > government.
>> > >
>> > >Then VDCs, DDCs, individuals and others have build many motorable
>> roads
>> > >according to their needs and budget that are connected to these
> national
>> > >highways. Most of these motorable roads were built mostly with the
>> > >initiative of the villagers.
>> > >
>> > >We can apply the same principle to build information highway across
>> the
>> > >country by using wireless technolgy specially in the mountainous part
> of
>> > >Nepal. In the southern part, they are already working on putting
>> fiber.
>> > >The fiber network can be connected to the wireless network whereever
>> it
>> > > is possible.
>> > >
>> > >Nepal is about 1000 km east to west and about 150 km on average north
> to
>> > >south. We can build wireless towers at a distance of 30 km to 40 km
>> in
>> > >zigzag manner connecting all the district headquaters and business
>> > > centers of Nepal. My very rough guess is that we will need to build
>> > > about 150 such towers to cover 70% of Nepal. We can put VSAT in the
>> > > areas where accessing those areas with wireless towers is
>> impossible.
>> > > The example of such places are Dolpo, Manang and areas on the other
>> > > side of the Himalayas.
>> > >
>> > >The reason I am talking about using wireless for building information
>> > >highway is because it is the best and the cheapest way to provide
>> > >broadband connectivity to the users in the mountainous areas whoever
>> > > they are. The users can be ISPs, hospitals, schools, colleges,
>> > > Televisions, FM stations, DDCs, VDCs, businesses and individuals.
>> > > Anybody can buy bandwidth and use.
>> > >
>> > >Take an example of NEA selling their fiber connectivity to the users.
>> > > They had built their fiber network in the past for their own use.
>> Now
>> > > NEA is selling bandwidth through its fiber to different businesses,
> and
>> > > ISPs at a cost, which is cheaper than it costs through VSAT.
>> > >
>> > >My last point as why we should use the wireless is that it will be a
> lot
>> > >cheaper to buy bandwidth for anybody. I know many of you know that
>> > > buying bandwidth from VSAT operators is about US$3 per kbps per
>> month.
>> > > If you buy bandwidth in volume, it will be between$2 and $3. Who can
>> > > afford to buy such an expensive bandwidth? Especialy it is beyond
>> the
>> > > capacity of smaller businesses. If there is big businesses and
>> > > organizations, who can afford to use expensive bandwidth, that is
> fine.
>> > > I am talking about making cheaper bandwidth to the rural people.
>> > >
>> > >Morever, Gaurab ji has mentioned that we can save a lots of dollars
> from
>> > >going abroad if we connect all the users in Nepal to NPIX (Nepal
>> > > Internet Excahnge) system to share the information within Nepal. The
>> > > idea is that if we connect all the users in Nepal to the system, the
>> > > information that people share within Nepal, don't have to come/go
>> > > through the satellite. That way we can save money.
>> > >
>> > >Let me stop here. We can discuss more on this topic.
>> > >
>> > >Mahabir
>> > >
>> > > > Dear Mahabir ji,
>> > > > Thank you for your contribution. It is a good idea. I want to be
> more
>> > > > clear
>> > > > about the information highway using relay tower. Could you please
>> > > > elaborate
>> > > > it? Thank you for your cooperation.
>> > > > With regards,
>> > > > Vinaya Kasajoo
>> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > From: <mahabir at himanchal.org>
>> > > > To: "Discussion List for Nepal's IT/Telecom Policies"
>> > > > <itpolicy-np at lahai.com>
>> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 2:43 PM
>> > > > Subject: Re: [Itpolicy-np] Utilization of the RTF Fund
>> > > >
>> > > >> Hello All;
>> > > >>
>> > > >> My idea is to build information highway across Nepal by using the
>> > > >> RTD Fund. I have already told my idea to build relay towers. Then
>> > > >> the private
>> > > >> businesses can use the highway to expand their businesses. If all
> of
>> >
>> >you
>> >
>> > > >> agree with my idea, we can form a strong team and I will lead the
>> > > >> team. Please let me know what you think.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Mahabir
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> Any update on the strong group :)
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Pavan
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> At 10:30 AM 2/9/2007, Kishor Panth wrote:
>> > > >>>>My idea also is like having a strong team of people who can find
>> > > >>>> out where
>> > > >>>>to strike and get a heavy weight hammer and hit that.
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>As it is like the manner you said under whose domain ?? the
>> answer
>> > > >>>> is that
>> > > >>>>the body like NTA and MOIC should be clear in the job definition
>> > > >>>> and there
>> > > >>>>area of work.
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>So in this as Pavan ji said let make a strong group that
>> includes
>> > > >>>> all the
>> > > >>>>related sector and form a team who can carry the hammer and
>> strike
>> >
>> >hard
>> >
>> > > >>>> on
>> > > >>>>the point when necessary.
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>Kishor
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>On Friday 09 February 2007 10:04, Pavan S Shakya wrote:
>> > > >>>> > "Hitting Hammer" where ?
>> > > >>>> >
>> > > >>>> > If at NTA, they will say MOIC ma kam hundaichha and its
>> beyond
>> > > >>>> > our
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> control.
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > NTA is autonomous body and they cannot pressurize MOIC.
>> > > >>>> >
>> > > >>>> > If at MOIC, whom shall we meet ? Minister ? Secretary ? Joint
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> Secretaries ?
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > Under Secretaries ? Section Officers ?
>> > > >>>> >
>> > > >>>> > We definitely like to meet only Minister and Secretary so
>> that
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> things
>> > > >>>> be
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > processed on time. Not be made pancha barsiya yojana (five
>> > > >>>> > years'
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> plan).
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > Where is High Level Media Commission Recommendations ?
>> > > >>>> >
>> > > >>>> > Where is the OLD Telecomm Act which was designed very well ?
>> > > >>>> >
>> > > >>>> > Where is the RTDF recommendations ?
>> > > >>>> >
>> > > >>>> > If at HLCIT, ............... ? Do such issues fall under
>> their
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> domain
>> > > >>>> ?
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > If at Bikas Samiti, it might be another political decision
>> but
>> >
>> >again
>> >
>> > > >>>> the
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > ball will be thrown in MOIC court.
>> > > >>>> >
>> > > >>>> > WHAT IS HAPPENING TO PC-TO-PC COMMUNICATION ? Who is studying
>> > > >>>> > the
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> case
>> > > >>>> --
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > NTA or MOIC ?
>> > > >>>> >
>> > > >>>> > AND WE IN THIS FLOOR NEVER KNOW HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE ?
>> > > >>>> >
>> > > >>>> > MAKE A STRONG TEAM -- ISPAN is ready. ISPAN is ready to visit
>> > > >>>> > NTA
>> >
>> >or
>> >
>> > > >>>> MOIC
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > everyday and discuss the solutions and problems, unless and
>> > > >>>> > until
>> >
>> >we
>> >
>> > > >>>> come
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > to the conclusion.
>> > > >>>> >
>> > > >>>> > Is NTA ready to join the team ? Hummm....its a good question
>> :)
>> > > >>>> >
>> > > >>>> > Who else is committed ?
>> > > >>>> >
>> > > >>>> > I PROPOSE TO FORM A PRESSURE GROUP which can "really"
> pressurize
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> government
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > on ICT development in Nepal.
>> > > >>>> >
>> > > >>>> > Pavan
>> > > >>>> >
>> > > >>>> > At 09:49 AM 2/9/2007, Kishor Panth wrote:
>> > > >>>> > >Yes I do agree with you Pavan ji but the thing is that I
> think
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> that
>> > > >>>> we
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > >are not able to hit on the point or we are not hitting that
>> > > >>>> > > point.
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> So
>> > > >>>> now
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > >I think with the support from the concern people who support
>> > > >>>> > > our
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> idea
>> > > >>>> we
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > >should make a strong team who can hit the hammer
>> > > >>>> > >
>> > > >>>> > >Kishor
>> > > >>>> > >
>> > > >>>> > >On Friday 09 February 2007 09:30, Pavan S Shakya wrote:
>> > > >>>> > > > We are fortunate that NTA has manager like Anand Sir who
>> is
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> ready
>> > > >>>> to
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > > > help us in our endeavour. However, the million dollar
>> > > >>>> > > > question
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> asked
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > > > and unasked is what alone can he do !! We all talk nicely
>> > > >>>> > > > when
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> we
>> > > >>>> meet
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > > > and meet and meet but in reality, is it happening ?
>> > > >>>> > > >
>> > > >>>> > > > So, we all need to support him and we all know how
>> Nepal's
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> bureaucracy
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > > > and political leaders listen to us. If necessary we need
>> to
>> >
>> >take
>> >
>> > > >>>> our
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > > > issues out on the street and............
>> > > >>>> > > >
>> > > >>>> > > > Regarding RTDF :
>> > > >>>> > > >
>> > > >>>> > > > 1. If I remember correctly, RTDF Manual has been proposed
> to
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> MOIC
>> > > >>>> in
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > > > late 2005 and so far nothing concrete has happened.
>> > > >>>> > > >
>> > > >>>> > > > 2. One of the recommendations they have is to create RTDF
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> Management
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > > > Committee.
>> > > >>>> > > >
>> > > >>>> > > > 3. I wonder if RTDF fund can be used as venture capital
>> for
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> rural
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > > > telecomm development.
>> > > >>>> > > >
>> > > >>>> > > > 4. Such fund must be given back to the service providers
> who
>> > > >>>> > > > is
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> ready
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > > > to go to "real" remote places in Karnali or Mugu or Rolpa
> or
>> > > >>>> > > > Arghakhanchi, where they still do not have road access.
>> > > >>>> > > >
>> > > >>>> > > > 5. If a service provider wants to expand his services to
> any
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> remote
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > > > areas, such organisation must be exempted from paying 2%
>> > > >>>> > > > RTDF
>> >
>> >in
>> >
>> > > >>>> order
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > > > to motivate that organisation.
>> > > >>>> > > >
>> > > >>>> > > > 6. Such fund must be given to NGOs and CBOs who delivers
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> results.
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > > > I am sure we all have plenty of ideas to share on this
>> > > >>>> > > > floor.
>> > > >>>> > > >
>> > > >>>> > > > BUT WHAT IS THE RESULT IF GOVERNMENT IS NOT ACTING
>> TIMELY.
>> > > >>>> > > >
>> > > >>>> > > > Pavan
>> > > >>>> > > >
>> > > >>>> > > > At 09:14 AM 2/9/2007, Kishor Panth wrote:
>> > > >>>> > > > >Hello all
>> > > >>>> > > > >As I have been observing we have been discussing about
>> the
>> > > >>>> > > > > RTF
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> that is
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > > > >there with NTA and I see every one saying that NTA is
>> not
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> utilizing
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > > > > that fund. And we have been discussing on how the fund
> can
>> > > >>>> > > > > be utilized also but never came up with the concrete
> ideas
>> > > >>>> > > > > on
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> these
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > > > > matter. Since Anand ji is there at NTA and is
>> supporting
>> > > >>>> > > > > our
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> ideas on
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > > > > using the fund I would like to request all the list
>> > > >>>> > > > > members
>> >
>> >to
>> >
>> > > >>>> come
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > > > > up with the brilliant idea . So that we can provide
>> some
>> >
>> >place
>> >
>> > > >>>> where
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > > > > the fund can be utilized.
>> > > >>>> > > > >
>> > > >>>> > > > >So let start floating the ideas, and since we have lot
>> of
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> peoples
>> > > >>>> here
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> > > > >with the brilliant ideas.
>> > > >>>> > > > >
>> > > >>>> > > > >Lets keep the list hot !!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> > > >>>> > > > >--
>> > > >>>> > > > >-........-
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>> > > >>>> > > > Hami Nepali, Hamro Nepal, Jai hos Nepal !
>> > > >>>> > > > (we are Nepalese, its our Nepal, Hail to Nepal)
>> > > >>>> > > >
>> > > >>>> > > > Pavan S Shakya
>> > > >>>> > > > Director, Public Relations, WorldLink
>> > > >>>> > > > President, ISP Association of Nepal
>> > > >>>> > > >
>> > > >>>> > > > Email : pavan at wlink.com.np
>> > > >>>> > > > Phone : +977 1 5523050 Ext. 229
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>> > > >>>> > Hami Nepali, Hamro Nepal, Jai hos Nepal !
>> > > >>>> > (we are Nepalese, its our Nepal, Hail to Nepal)
>> > > >>>> >
>> > > >>>> > Pavan S Shakya
>> > > >>>> > Director, Public Relations, WorldLink
>> > > >>>> > President, ISP Association of Nepal
>> > > >>>> >
>> > > >>>> > Email : pavan at wlink.com.np
>> > > >>>> > Phone : +977 1 5523050 Ext. 229
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>> > > >>> (we are Nepalese, its our Nepal, Hail to Nepal)
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Pavan S Shakya
>> > > >>> Director, Public Relations, WorldLink
>> > > >>> President, ISP Association of Nepal
>> > > >>>
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>> > > >>> Phone : +977 1 5523050 Ext. 229
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>> >
>> >Pavan S Shakya
>> >Director, Public Relations, WorldLink
>> >President, ISP Association of Nepal
>> >
>> >Email : pavan at wlink.com.np
>> >Phone : +977 1 5523050 Ext. 229
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>>
>> Pavan S Shakya
>> Director, Public Relations, WorldLink
>> President, ISP Association of Nepal
>>
>> Email : pavan at wlink.com.np
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